Pastor Chuck Baldwin – Revelation 8 Four Trumpet Judgments

This Revelation Timeline Decoded post features a video from Dr. Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship called The Seventh Seal And First Four Trumpets: The Siege – Part One – God’s Vengeance Unleashed.

This message was preached by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Sunday, 01/15/23, during the service at Liberty Fellowship.

Note: Pastor Chuck Baldwin doesn’t allow comments on his video.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that most of the book of Revelation contains the details of destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. 

That is a false claim, as most of the prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years, as the Satan-empowered leaders of the Roman beast kingdom have fought against Messiah and His saints.

The pagan Roman Emperors tried to wipe out the early church, killing millions during ten persecution periods which took place from the first century until 312 AD. The antichrist beast Popes banned and burned the Scriptures and caused tens of millions of saints to be killed during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition.

The seal and trumpet judgments are about the history of the decline and fall of the pagan Roman Empire. The vial judgments are against the antichrist beast popes and Catholics who have the mark of the beast on them.

These are the things that Messiah is pointing to in His apocalyptic vision, which invalidates the preterist explanations of Pastor Chuck Baldwin.

Read Revelation Timeline

Preterism effectively hides the true fulfillment of prophecy and it serves to deflect blame away from the antichrist beast pope and false prophet Jesuit Superior General.


The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke pointed to the judgment of the Jewish nation. Revelation does not.

Read The Olivet Discourse Deception

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship talks about a literal silence in heaven

The silence in the seventh seal represents Messiah sealing His servants before He sounds the seven war trumpets of judgment against the pagan Roman Empire.

In the context of the historical fulfillment of the seals of Revelation, when Roman Emperor Constantine gave the Edict of Milan in 313 AD, it gave liberty to the saints and there was peace for a little while.

Amazingly, a Roman coin was minted in 322 AD with Constantine on the front and ‘Beata Tranquillitas’ on the back, which means ‘Blessed Tranquility.’ By this, we see a direct match between Messiah proclaiming a short time of silence in Revelation 8:1 and the declaration by Constantine. HalleluYah!

There was relative peace for the saints in the Roman Empire from when Constantine took control until after Emperor Theodosius I, who ruled from 378-395. While the Romans enjoyed a time of peace, the savage nations were amassing on the borders, awaiting their time to attack the mighty Empire.

The Goths revered Emperor Theodosius, so while he was alive, they didn’t attack. When he died in January 395 AD, the Empire was left to his weaker sons, Arcadius and Honorius, and the time of peace ended.

Read Revelation 8 – 7th Seal Silence

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the incense of the prayers of the saints in Revelation 8:3, point to the sixth seal martyrs of the Jews.

It’s pointing to the martyrs of the pagan Roman Emperors during ten persecution periods which took place from the first century until 312 AD, when Constantine stopped them.

The Roman Empire was in decline from the previous seal judgments, and they blamed the saints of Messiah for their refusal to worship the Roman gods.

Edward Gibbon noted, If the empire had been afflicted by any recent calamity, by a plague, a famine, or an unsuccessful war; if the Tiber had, or if the Nile had not, risen beyond its banks; if the earth had shaken, or if the temperate order of the seasons had been interrupted, the superstitious Pagans were convinced that the crimes and the impiety of the Christians, who were spared by the excessive lenity of the government, had at length provoked the divine justice.

The martyrs’ blood is symbolically cried out for vengeance. There are two groups of martyrs spoken of in Revelation. The first group was killed by the pagan Roman Empire. The second group was killed during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition when tens of millions of martyrs were slain by Papal Rome and the countries they controlled.

Read Revelation 6 – 5th Seal Martyrs

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that Revelation 6 is like a trailer which gives a preview and then Revelation 8 gives the details about the same events. 

This is a inaccurate explanation, which he gives to try to justify his preterist explanations. The narrative of the trumpet judgments are very different than the seals.

Here’s a summary of the fulfillment of the seal judgments:

2nd Seal – The Red horse represents a bloody time in the Roman Empire from 185-284 AD, as it went into a phase of revolution and civil war for 90 years, during which there were 32 emperors and 27 contenders for the throne.

3rd Seal – The Black horse represents a period of gloom and despair, as the Romans suffered under excessive taxes that were needed to pay for wars. The pricing for wheat and barley point to food scarcity from 222-235 AD.

4th Seal – The Pale horse represents 1/4th of Romans dying from famine, plague, pestilence and violence, from 250-300 AD. The word ‘earth‘ is pointing to the Roman Empire as the ‘land’ of prophecy.

5th Seal – It represents the millions of martyrs who were killed by the Roman Empire, especially the Smyrna church era martyrs who Emperor Diocletian persecuted for ten years, from 303-312 AD. Their blood cried out for Elohim to avenge their deaths.

6th Seal – Earthquakes in the prophecy represent great political upheavals. Eastern Emperor Constantine defeated Diocletian’s army in 312 AD, which ended the persecutions. Diocletian (the Sun) was so panic stricken, he died insane. Constantine defeated emperors Maxentius and Licinius to become sole ruler of both west and east by 324 AD. The Roman leaders (stars) fell and their power receded as a scroll. The mountains and islands that were moved out of place, were the countries and people that were affected by this political change.

7th Seal – It represents Messiah sealing His servants before He sounds the seven war trumpets of judgment against the Pagan Roman Empire.

The historical fulfillment of the Revelation 6 seals, proves that the preterist view of Pastor Chuck Baldwin is false.

Here’s the historicist summary of the fulfillment of the first trumpet. 

1st Trumpet – Hail can point to war in Bible symbolism, and Elohim caused the Goths, who were led by Alaric, to move in the direction in which literal hail came (north to south). They attacked the Roman Empire from 400-410 AD, in Greece, Gaul and Spain. Then 300,000 Goths invaded Italy. The fire represents the ‘scorched earth’ policy in their invasions of enemy territory.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship points to Revelation 11:8, saying that the saints were killed in Jerusalem, where Messiah was crucified.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

The ‘great city’ symbolizes the Roman beast kingdom, which is centered in Rome. This is in contrast to Messiah’s saints, who are symbolized as ‘heavenly Jerusalem.’

The beliefs and actions of the antichrist beast popes is why the great city, the Roman beast kingdom, is proclaimed to be spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

The antichrist beast popes proclaim to lead Messiah’s church, but they teach a false gospel of works through the sacraments. They erected ten pagan-sun god phallic symbol obelisks around Rome, one in the square of St. Peter’s Basilica, as they worship pagan gods.

The word ‘was’ in the phrase ‘where also our Lord was crucified’ is not in the Greek manuscripts. The Bible translators gave it a past tense of WAS, but it can also read as present tense, ‘where also our Lord IS crucified.’

The blasphemous eucharist ceremony of the antichrist beast popes symbolically crucifies Messiah again for sins, which denies His one-time blood atonement. And it symbolically represents the birth of their incarnate christ-child, Tammuz. This wicked ceremony is held in Catholic churches around the world many times a week.

Messiah is seen crucified on the wicked Roman crucifix, which mocks Messiah by keeping Him on the cross. Wicked crucifixes are in Catholic churches and homes around the world.

The popes have cause Catholics to break the ten commandments by using them to kill tens of millions of Messiah’s saints, make and bow down to graven images, etc. This is they are referred to as being spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

Read We Know The Antichrist Beast, False Prophet And Harlot Of Revelation By Their Fruit

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that in the second trumpet, that Jerusalem was destroyed by the faith of Jesus’ disciples.

He cites Matthew 21:21, Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

He says that Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus and the Roman armies, but spiritually Jerusalem was destroyed by the faith of Jesus’ disciples.

To try to make the narrative work, Pastor Chuck Baldwin says that the sea is referring to battle between Romans and Galileans in the sea of Galilee. But that is not congruent with his explanation that the saints supposedly cast the mountain of Jerusalem into the sea.

Messiah is using an allegory and not telling them that they can literally move a mountain.  Besides that, Messiah was not referring to the mount on which the city of Jerusalem sits, as Pastor Baldwin proclaims, but to the Mount of Olives.

Albert Barnes says, To remove a mountain, denotes the power of overcoming any difficulty. The phrase was so used by the Jews. There is no doubt that this was literally true, that if they had the faith of miracles, they could remove the mountain before them the mount of Olives–for this was as easy for God to do by them as to heal the sick, or raise the dead. 

John Gill says, the Mount of Olives, where Christ and his disciples now were, and were passing over, or, at least, were very near it; or any other mountain wherever they might be, to which they should, upon any occasion, think fit to say.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin then cites different cases when the saints overthrew parts of the Roman Empire, to make his case that the disciples caused Jerusalem to be overthrown seem to make sense.

He points to saints destroying the pagan roman empire in the third century.

The saints prayers led to the decline and the fall of the Roman Empire, which is described in the 2nd-6th seals and 1st-6th trumpets.

Revelation 12, which is about Satan using the pagan Roman Emperors to make war with the saints, points to them winning the victory.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12:11

Pastor Chuck Baldwin points to the saints destroying the papacy in the 16th century.

It’s amazing to me that he proclaims these things, because this is what Messiah is pointing to in the historicist narrative of the fulfillment of Revelation.

Messiah’s saints prevailed over the antichrist beast popes when they were given the Scriptures after the popes had banned and burned them during the Dark Ages.

Martin Luther and others followed the command in Revelation 11:1-2, to measure the temple; meaning to measure what the papal church teaches against the rule of Scripture. Luther found out that the Roman Catholic Church is an apostate church and not part of the true temple of Messiah, and that it’s delegated to the outer court of the Gentiles. Read Revelation 11 – Measuring The Temple

During the Dark Ages, the antichrist beast popes hid the Scriptures in Latin, so the Protestant Reformers translated them into English, German and other languages. And with the timely advent of the printing press, the little book of Revelation 10, the printed Bible, was spread around the world, helping to overcome the antichrist beast popes. Read Revelation 10 – The Little Book

These historical fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation disprove Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s preterist explanations.

Here’s the historicist summary of the fulfillment of the second trumpet. 

2nd Trumpet – A mountain in Biblical symbolism represents a great nation and a sea is a large group of people. It represents Elohim sending the Vandals, led by Genseric, to attack the coast-lands of the Roman territory of the Mediterranean and all the islands from 425-470 AD, leaving bloodshed and confusion in their wake.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the wormwood in the third trumpet was the bitterness of the Jews of the Sanhedrin. 

Then he proclaims that 1/3rd of the rivers became bitter/poisonous and many died from drinking the water. So the wormwood supposedly points to the bitterness of the Jews, but then he says that the literal water became poisoned. That’s not a consistent narrative.

Here’s the historicist summary of the fulfillment of the third trumpet. 

3rd Trumpet – A star in prophecy symbolizes a leader. Elohim sent this great burning star, Attila the king of the Huns, who was called “the scourge of God.” Attila and his 800,000 man army rose quickly and flashed across the land in 451 AD, and desolated the Italian Alps, which is the source of the Danube, Rhine and Po rivers.

A primary military strategy was to attack armies when they were crossing rivers, which caused many dead bodies to lie in the rivers, making the water ‘bitter’ and causing people downstream to die.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that in the fourth trumpet, the sun, moon and stars were darkened by fire, smoke in skies.

Though the skies were filled with smoke at the end of the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD, the context of the fourth trumpet judgment is armies attacking the vast Roman Empire.

Here’s the historicist summary of the fulfillment of the fourth trumpet. 

4th Trumpet – The sun, moon and stars, can symbolize leadership structure. Here it represents Elohim using Odoacer and the Heruli, a branch of the Goths, to cause the downfall of Roman leadership when Romulus Augustalus, the last Western Roman Emperor (the sun) of the West was captured in 476 AD. The hierarchy of Roman leaders (moon and stars) would have lost power too.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin says that the heavenly bodies were four Roman emperors who died violent deaths.

If he thinks that Revelation is about the fulfillment of Messiah’s Olivet Discourse, why didn’t he apply it to the Jewish leaders; the high priest (sun), Sanhedrin (moon) and priests (stars)? Read The Olivet Discourse Sun, Moon And Stars

The last Western Roman Emperor (the sun) was removed from power in 476 AD, which fulfilled many different prophecies.

The Popes Are The Little Horn Of Daniel 7. Daniel 7:8 points to the little horn, the Pope, who rose to power over the ten horns, the ten kingdoms of the fallen Roman Empire. Three would not bow to his authority so they were plucked out, eliminated. Daniel 7:25 points to them persecuting the saints, which took place during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition, killing 50 million. The Popes changed the law, removing the 2nd commandment.

The Popes Are The Son Of Perdition Of 2 Thessalonians 2. The Western Roman Emperors restrained the Popes from taking power, but when the last one was removed from power in 476 AD (the deadly head wound), the Popes took their place as Pontifex Maximus, leader of church and state (healing the deadly head wound).

The Popes Are The Antichrist Beast Of Revelation. The antichrist beast is an office, not one man. It’s fulfilled by the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome. They rose to power out of the sea of people of the ten kingdoms of the fallen Roman Empire. They reigned in civil and ecclesiastic power for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. Kings bowed to their authority. They banned and burned the Scriptures and persecuted the saints.

The Popes Are The Eighth King Of Revelation 17. From John’s perspective, five forms of Roman government had passed, the sixth was the Emperors, the seventh existed a short time from 476-538 AD, and the eighth king is the Popes

Read Prophecy Points To The Leader Of The Roman Beast Study

Whether Pastor Baldwin is woefully deceived or a deceiver doesn’t matter, as the effect of his explanations serve to deflect blame away from the enemy of Messiah and His saints, and hide the true historical fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation.

I prove out the historical fulfillment of most of the prophecies in Revelation during the last 1,900 years, which validate historicist explanations and invalidates the preterist explanation of Pastor Chuck Baldwin.

Revelation Timeline Decoded by David Nikao Wilcoxson - end times prophecy

Messiah’s apocalyptic vision is a war manual, designed to hide the explanation from those who should not understand it. It uses symbolic words that are defined in the Old Testament to point to a literal fulfillment. If you read Revelation only from a literal perspective, the interpretation is hidden.

Understanding the vision is like taking a Biblical final exam. If you’ve read the whole Word, you will have seen the symbolism that Messiah uses and can apply it to the fulfillment.

If you read Revelation as one chronological narrative, the prophecies seem out of sequence. That’s because it has four chronological layers, each of which spans from when it was written until Messiah returns.

This book explains the prophecies of Revelation on a timeline to help you see how the four chronological layers interact with each other, so that you can comprehend the whole vision.

You will learn how to identify who fulfills the role of the son of perdition, the antichrist beast, the false prophet, and the harlot called ‘Mystery, Babylon the Great.’ You will understand the proper context of the sealtrumpet, and bowl judgments; the little book of Revelation 10, and the two witnesses of Revelation 11.

Whether you’re a novice at Bible prophecy or someone who has studied it extensively, I provide an explanation that is easy to understand yet has the depth of verse by verse explanations to provide you the evidence you need to prove it out.

Here’s a link to YouTube videos about the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation.




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10 thoughts on “Pastor Chuck Baldwin – Revelation 8 Four Trumpet Judgments”

  1. Wow! What an amazing breakdown of Pastor Chuck Baldwin’s Jesuit, preterist false teachings.

    I stopped listening to this false teacher many months ago.

    Pastor Chuck Baldwin is a deceiver and that DOES MATTER! We are to discern and flee from false teachers and educate others spiritually regarding same – like you are doing. Thank you.

    You did an amazing outline of the truth proven in Scripture, history and prophecy.

    This sermon by Pastor Chuck Baldwin is ABSOLUTE proof that he is intentionally (yes, I can say that because it is the truth) deceiving people. I have family that believe he is a Jesuit coadjutor. I had my doubts at first but not anymore.

    Chuck Baldwin identifies with the Roman Catholic Jesuit Church who founded and financed ROMEamerica. Chuck Baldwin is doing exactly what the Jesuits want him to do – FOCUS ON THE FAKE JEWS (who are controlled by Rome) and TAKE YOUR ATTENTION OFF OF ROME and the ROMAN [UNIVERSAL] CHURCH OF SATAN!!

    Like I have said 1000 times before for those reading this my comment for the first time, Pastor Chuck Baldwin surrounds himself with Roman Catholics and Jesuit-trained and educated people.

    My family and friends have spent countless hours researching Chuck Baldwin’s pastoral history and career, his associations, his interviews, his honorary degrees, his newsletters, his online bookstore, his political campaigns (Presidential, Vice Presidential, and Lt Governor runs), his radio shows, and more. He is NOT a Biblical pastor and he will deceive you! Beware of wolves who come in sheep’s clothing!!

    • Thank you for your comment! The more that I listen to his explanations I’m convinced that there’s no way that he doesn’t know and understand the historicist explanations which have been proclaimed by people such as Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, EB Elliott, Henry Grattan Guinness, John Gill and Matthew Poole.

      He’s forcing an explanation of Revelation to fit into the narrative about the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD. And because he’s a staunch defender of America, Christians blindly trust him.

      He teaches some truth about the 70th week of Daniel 9 and the Olivet Discourse, and teaches against futurism to get people to trust him. But then he misleads them with the other Jesuit deception that was created to deflect blame away from the popes of Rome, that of preterism.

      Jesuit Luis De Alcazar published a book called ‘Investigation of the Hidden Sense of the Apocalypse‘ in 1614 AD, which assigns the fulfillment of the prophecies in Revelation to the first century. He devoted himself to bring into prominence the preterist method of interpretation to show the prophecies of antichrist were fulfilled before the Popes ever ruled at Rome, and therefore could not apply to the Papacy.

      Just like futurism/dispensationalism, preterism serves to deflect blame away from the Popes, as the Protestant Reformers rightly proclaimed that office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn‘ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition‘ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the ‘antichrist beast‘ of Revelation 13, who leads the ‘harlot‘ church of Rome.

      • Exactly, which makes him more dangerous than the pastor or teacher that has been truly deceived by futurism or preterism and does NOT know the truth (but will still be accountable, of course).

        Chuck Baldwin KNOWS the truth and he KNOWS who the Jesuits are. Yet he still DECEIVES and leads people to the ROMAN PATRIARCH of ROMEamerica.

        You can’t come out of futurism only to embrace preterism. It only takes a little bit of research and the desire to seek truth (not beliefs) to find out how these false prophecy doctrines came about. They did NOT originate from Darby and Scofield as Baldwin would have his audience believe. This is yet another deception on Baldwin’s part to distract people away from the Jesuits and the Roman Catholic [Universal] Cult.

        Wasn’t Scofield a [fake] Jew? I’m starting to wonder if that is why Baldwin goes after him so much because he loves to bash [fake] Jews rather than present the source from which Scofield advanced his futurist deceptions- the Jesuits.

        All one has to do is research who Baldwin associates and promotes. They are ALL rooted or tied to Catholicism (religion) or Jesuitism (schooled/educated/trained). If you ever have a chance, research “The Ron Paul (Baldwin’s idol) Curriculum” for his home-school program. You can’t make this stuff up! It is influenced by Catholicism/Jesuitism.

        Thanks again for breaking this all down and presenting TRUTH to set the captives FREE.

  2. Greetings David

    Thank you for addressing Pastor Chucks sermon last Sunday. I was going to email you as I too felt it didn’t sit right with me particularly his citing about the silence in heaven plus his comments about these chapters applying to the destruction of Jerusalem. My other concern is that in all the prophesy teachings he has never once mentioned about the Roman Empire and the supplanting of the Roman Catholic Church or Jesuits. In fact he never refers ever to the Jesuits. In many of Pastor Chucks sermons in the past he has continually referred to those you mention eg Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, EB Elliott, Henry Grattan Guinness, John Gill and Matthew Poole et al. This is another reason I find it hard to understand his lack of reference to the Jesuits and RCC.

    I feel terribly sad listening to Pastor Chuck as I have been an online supporter of Liberty fellowship for a long time – after returning from living in Israel for many years. I still haven’t found a fellowship with any depth in Melbourne Australia.

    I’m still in the process of learning much about end times and the Book of Revelation. However, given coming out of the Roman Catholic Church there is no doubt in my mind and heart (and spirit) the Papacy is behind the globalist agenda. Your timelines and explanations makes so much sense to me.

    Thank you David for your extensive study and for making it available for all to see. I continue to pass on your work to many as I find Christians in particular are so unaware of the times we are living in. In the meantime I will pray for Pastor Chuck that God will show him the truth.

    Many blessings and thanks David.

    • Greetings Rosslyn

      Pastor Chuck Baldwin cites people like Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, EB Elliott, Henry Grattan Guinness, John Gill and Matthew Poole; when what they say appears to affirm his explanation. But he seems to be intentionally hiding that they were historicists and not preterists. And most people don’t bother to read the explanations, so they blindly trust Chuck’s narrative.

      We have to keep in mind that Jesuits take on many different forms, including that of conservative pastors.

      I appreciate your zeal for studying Bible prophecy and for sharing it with others.

      Grace, peace and love to you,

    • David,

      You wrote, “We have to keep in mind that Jesuits take on many different forms, including that of conservative pastors.”

      I couldn’t have said it any better!

      Chuck Baldwin is being used by the Jesuit Vatican Roman Catholic Empire. He did NOT come out of futurism, so he says, only to embrace preterism and then NEVER talk once about the UNIVERSAL [CATHOLIC] ROMAN CATHOLIC BEAST EMPIRE that is TAKING OVER EVERY ASPECT OF SOCIETY.

      In fact, in one of his sermons he seemed to be threatening anyone (shouting, pointing his finger at the camera, animated in an angry face) who would bring up to him the Roman Catholic Church or take a different view of America’s Founding Fathers. He told them don’t do it! Then, when he said anyone questioning the founding fathers is a “traitor” and “useless” (yes, he said these exact words in quotes), this was the last straw for me.

      He is HEADSTRONG and will NOT listen to anyone who disagrees with him or show him Scripture and history.

      There is an interview he did a while back about how he came out of futurism. If you listen to him very carefully, something is off. It’s almost as if he was transitioning instead of receiving a revelation that futurism was a deception. I say transitioning as if he was going in another direction to deflect away from Rome. This is what Jesuits (or Jesuit controlled ops) do. They are chameleons.

      Think about it. Chuck’s entire persona and ministry is based on American patriotism and the Founding Fathers which is rooted in ROMAN Catholicism and JESUIT deception. He is a [Roman-based] politician NOT a Biblical pastor.

      He self promotes as America’s “Patriot” Pastor. Wow! How about America’s “Biblical” Pastor?

      I am going to send you the article he wrote about Mel Gibson’s movie “The Passion of the Christ.” It will CHILL YOU TO THE BONE! He PRAISED this Jesuit, vile film. His accolades for this production in detail should frighten anyone.

      Thanks for your dedication to seeking truth. These comments are so refreshingly true!

      • That’s amazing about Chuck threatening people who point to the Roman Catholic Church or take a different view of America’s Founding Fathers.

        History shows who helped found the USA and why. Jesuit Georgetown University was created shortly after the country was founded. That’s a major clue! We see it today with Jesuit/Catholic leaders causing us to be involved in endless wars, to overthrow leaders who didn’t bow to the General’s authority.

        The more I’ve listened to Chuck, the more convinced I am that he’s pushing the preterist narrative on purpose.

        It’s similar to the Seventh Day Adventist Church. The more I’ve studied their prophecy fulfillment explanation, the more that I’m convinced that they were founded to hijack historicism. Just like Chuck, they teach some truth to attract an audience and get people to trust them, but then they deceive people about some key prophecies. And their explanations deflect blame away from the General.

        It’s amazing how people blindly support Catholic/Mormon-produced movies about Messiah!

        • David,

          Chuck relentlessly preaches about the anti-christ Zionist wars that America is involved with but he NEVER talks about it in terms of what you just said: “We see it [Catholicism/Jesuitism] today with Jesuit/Catholic leaders causing us to be involved in endless wars, to overthrow leaders who didn’t bow to the General’s authority.”

          Futurism and Preterism are both Jesuit inventions and Chuck preached about the former for 40+ years but then suddenly switches to preterism? Are you kidding me? You bet he’s doing it on purpose because he is a deceiver and I can/will say it to warn others from his lies and deception coming straight from the enemy.

          Lastly, Chuck was the late Pastor Jerry Falwell’s protege’ for years. Falwell worshipped Ronald Reagan (puppet for Rome) who worshipped Pope John Paul (antichrist beast Pope of Rome). Let that sink in. Baldwin placed himself in this political circle. He didn’t have to but he did for decades and STILL DOES.

          I went to Falwell’s school as a freshman in college (on an academic scholarship) because that was what my parents thought (and me because I was raised that way) was Christianity. It was like a cult and I left after my 1st year. I didn’t know then what I know now but I can tell you that me and my 3 closest friends I hung around with there all left for the same reason after 1 year. It was like a cult. We were just kids and felt this!

          • Thanks for sharing that information! Yeah, the Jesuit Catholic control of DC is obvious! The Roman architecture of DC buildings, the Roman fasces symbols in the US House of Representatives and on the dome of the capital with the Roman goddess of war, Georgetown University, on land that borders VIRGINia and MARYland.

            Yeah, Jerry Falwell was sketchy! Good thing you had discernment and got out of there!

            You mentioned that Chuck has a Roman Eucharist ceremony in his church. Is it a Christian-type communion? Or Catholic round wafer going into the monstrance type of ceremony?

  3. David,

    You may want to read Chuck Baldwin’s latest newsletter as it relates to your review of his latest sermon. It covers 4 different topics but what is MOST important is what he is NOT saying.

    In his newsletter, he again emphasizes in his own words,

    “As I have repeatedly shown, most of the Book of Revelation is the account of Jerusalem’s destruction by the Roman armies in 70 AD. Chapters 8 and 9 show the details of the Roman siege against Jerusalem.” /s/ Chuck Baldwin

    This man is a deceiver! Once again, using 70 A.D. (The Destruction of Jerusalem) and Christian Zionism (an ideology invented by the Jesuits) to deflect blame and attention away from the 4th and final Roman Beast Kingdom that exists today.

    His newsletter opener, “America’s Churches are Dying” is saying what exactly? Once again, he refuses to take this opportunity and expose (Come Out of Her) the Roman Catholic [Universal] Antichrist Church System and ALL of its harlot daughter (evangelical) churches from which they are birthed. The word “church” is relative. What church is he talking about? For example, there are many churches in California for example that are anti-christ (nothing to do with Christ) but use the word church in their title. That doesn’t make them a church unto Messiah Jesus (yes, I still use the English transliteration) or our Heavenly Father’s inspired WORD of GOD. In other words, if America’s churches were/are rooted in Catholicism (like most are), they were never Messiah’s Ekklesia to begin with.

    The Roman Antichrist Catholic [Universal] Church is the largest political and religious corporation in the world but he REFUSES to talk about it because he wants YOU and ME to keep focused on the fake Khazarian/Ashkenazi [unbelieving] Jew who works for the Roman Beast Kingdom just like the unbelieving Jews did when Messiah walked this earth with his disciples.

    Lastly, for those who don’t know, Baldwin still remains beholden (preaches about it) to the pagan holi-days of ChristMASSacre and Easter named after Ishtar, the pagan goddess of sexual fertility and sexual proclivity, not to mention that he and his “liberty fellowship” take part in Rome’s Catholic Eucharist.

    Enough said.


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