This Revelation Timeline Decoded post reviews videos from David Carrico and Jon Pounders of Midnight Ride, to show you how their explanations are misleading people.
Let me start by saying that the historical fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel 9 from 27-34 AD, Messiah’s Olivet Discourse which describes events leading to the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD, and most of prophecies in Revelation during the last 1,900 years; validates the authority of Scripture and the deity of Messiah. David Carrico and Jon Pounders futuristic explanations serve to hide those proofs.
The concept of a future 70th week of Daniel 9, in which a one-man antichrist appears and most of Revelation is fulfilled, is a deception from the enemy. I know that sounds crazy since most people teach these concepts, but the enemy has worked hard to mislead the end-times saints so that even the very elect are deceived. I pray that you will seek truth, not to defend a belief.
Please understand that I declare these things not because I think that I know it all, and I’m not saying that everything that David Carrico and Jon Pounders teaches is false. What I’m showing is that what they teach about prophecy fulfillment is false, because it’s based on the futuristic model that was created by the enemy to deceive the end-times saints.
I don’t proclaim this for my sake, because this isn’t about me. You can dismiss what I’m saying and defend your beliefs, but now you’re accountable and I’ve fulfilled my role as the watchman blowing the trumpet.
White Horseman of the Apocalypse and the 7 Headed Dragon video review.
David Carrico and Jon Pounders of Midnight Ride are aligning the birth pains of Matthew 24 to the seal judgments of Revelation, and applying them to the end times.
This is a false narrative, as the context of Messiah’s Olivet Discourse is the desolation of the temple that He just came out of, in which He rebuked the Jewish leaders who were seeking to kill Him. He proclaimed that judgment would come upon them in that generation. We know that within a generation, the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD caused Jerusalem, the temple and the Jewish nation to be desolated. 1.1 million Jews died in and around Jerusalem from famine, pestilence, infighting, suicide, evisceration, crucifixion and by the Roman sword.
All of the things that Messiah described from Matthew 23:36 to Matthew 24:33 were fulfilled by 70 AD when the Romans desolated Jerusalem, the temple, and the Jewish nation. The enemy has deceived people about the symbolism of the sun, moon, and stars being darkened; Messiah coming in power and glory; and the elect being gathered. But the Bible gives the proper definitions for the symbols.
The term ‘this generation’ was used ten times in Matthew, the last time in Matthew 24:34. The previous nine times it points to the Jews who lived during Messiah’s first advent. When you take Messiah at His Word you see the fulfillment of His Olivet Discourse and how the things that He described took place in that generation of Jews, for their punishment of continuing their rebellion against the Father, for delivering Messiah up to be killed, and for persecuting His disciples. They proclaimed ‘let His blood be on us,’ and that prophetic statement was fulfilled in that generation.
If you’re seeking for truth, and not to defend a belief, this book will prove out the fulfillment of Messiah’s Olivet Discourse. It will help you see that it’s not about the end times so that you’re not misled about the fulfillment of Revelation, as we await Messiah’s promised return.
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David Carrico says that Revelation 12 is about Israel and a Jewish crown.
That is false, as Revelation 12 is about the pagan Roman beast kingdom, which Satan used to try to wipe out Messiah’s Ekklesia of saints. Messiah’s church was born out of much tribulations, as the Satan-empowered Roman Emperors persecuted them during ten persecution periods.
The last one from 303-312 AD was the most painful, just like child birth, when Diocletian sought to wipe out Messiah’s Ekklesia. These are the saints of the church era of Smyrna, who Messiah foretold would face ten days (ten prophet years) of tribulation. These are the saints in Revelation 12:11 who overcame by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. These are the martyrs of the fifth seal, whose blood cried out for vengeance against the pagan Roman Empire.
David Carrico gave an explanation of why the crowns move from the seven heads in Revelation 12, to the ten horns in Revelation 13; but applied it to Israel.
He seems to make everything about Israel, which is a false narrative that deflects blame away from Rome.
The crowns were on the seven heads in Revelation 12 because John is telling us that the pagan Roman Empire is in power, which had seven forms of government, seven kings. Then after the last Western Roman Emperor (the restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2) was removed from power in 476 AD, during the fourth trumpet judgment, the Western Empire split into ten civil kingdoms.
Then the antichrist beast Popes of Rome took power in 538 AD and the ten kings gave their power and authority to the Pope. So John is telling us in Revelation 13 that the Popes, who rose out of the sea of people of the ten kingdoms of the fallen Roman Empire, took power.
David Carrico says that the five kings in Revelation 17:10 that have fallen are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece; that the sixth is Rome and the seventh is Israel.
Then they list Israel as the first beast, which makes no sense, as Greece would be the sixth that was in existence when John wrote Revelation. And David says the eighth is Israel and it is the beast that was, and is not, and is to come. He’s saying that Israel existed, and then it was not and now the deadly head wound has been healed in the Zionist state of Israel.
That all is a false narrative. The angel is showing him how the harlot Roman Catholic Church rose to power. It’s pointing to seven forms of government of the Roman Empire, the same seven heads (kings) that are declared in Revelation 12, which had crowns on them. Five had passed when John wrote down the Revelation vision. The sixth was the Emperor’s who reigned until 476 AD, when they were removed from power. The seventh existed during the short time from 476-538 AD. Then the eighth king, the Popes of Rome took power over the Western Roman Empire.
It’s the Popes who lead the harlot church of Revelation 17. This is the same narrative as the little horn of Daniel 7, in that the Popes took power over the ten kingdoms of the fallen Roman Empire.
David Carrico says that the deadly head wound in Revelation was to Israel and now it’s been healed.
That is a false narrative, as the deadly head wound was to the office of the Western Roman Emperor, which ended in 476 AD. The Popes then took power over the Roman beast kingdom and proclaimed the Emperor’s title of Pontifex Maximus, the leader of church and state, thus the deadly head wound was healed.
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David Carrico says that Revelation 13:12 is pointing to Satan infilling one man, I supposed the one-man antichrist.
That is a false narrative. John in Revelation 12-13 is describing the leaders of the fourth beast of Daniel, during three phases the Roman beast kingdom. He points to the Satan-empowered pagan Roman Emperors of Revelation 12; the sea beast phase of the antichrist beast Popes reigning in power for 1,260 years from 538-1798 AD; and the false prophet Jesuit Superior General who rose to power out of the land (earth, ge in the Greek) of the beast, the Vatican.
It is the Jesuit Superior General who was given authority in the 16th century, who lived in the land (earth) of the Vatican. It is the General who caused the first four bowl judgments to be poured out on countries which had banned the Jesuits. It is the General who used Napoleon to remove the Pope from power as part of the fifth bowl. The black pope has controlled the Vatican ever since, and he exercises his authority in front of the white pope.
Horns point to leaders. The earth beast phase of the Roman beast kingdom has two horns, the black pope and the white pope, the false prophet Jesuit Superior General and the antichrist beast Pope; who pretend to serve Messiah (lamb-like), but really serve Satan (the dragon).
The General in Rome controls the city-state corporation of the District of Columbia, the Zionist state of Israel via the Rothschild family and almost every country in the world.
Read Revelation 13 – The Roman Earth Beast Phase
David Carrico cites Albert Barnes, John Gill and Matthew Poole, who prove that the office of the papacy is the son of perdition and the antichrist beast; but somehow David either ignores and hides that explanation.
There’s much more that I could address in the White Horseman of the Apocalypse and the 7 Headed Dragon video, but the bottom line is that David Carrico and Jon Pounders of Midnight Ride are proclaiming that most of Revelation is yet future, and that is a false narrative, as most of it’s been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years as the Satan-empowered Roman beast kingdom has made war with Messiah and His saints.
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David Carrico says that he thinks that one of the presidents of the US is the first beast and the second beast, the false prophet, is the Pope of Rome.
This is a false narrative, as Daniel foretold four beast kingdoms in Daniel 2 and 7; Babylon > Medo-Persia > Greece > Rome, the last of which stays in power until Messiah returns.
In Revelation, John picks up the narrative of the Roman beast kingdom, describing the leaders of the three different phases.
Revelation 12 describes the pagan Emperors who tried to wipe out Messiah’s early church, making it’s birth painful.
The Revelation 13 sea beast phase of the Roman beast kingdom describes the Popes of Rome rising to power over the sea of people of the ten kingdoms of the fallen Roman Empire. They reigned in power from 1260 years, from 538-1798, and banned and burned the Scriptures and persecuted the saints during the Dark Ages and Inquisition.
The Revelation 13 earth beast phase of the Roman beast kingdom describes the Jesuit General rising to power out of the earth (land) of the Vatican. The black pope and the white pope are the two horns, the two leaders, who pretend to be priests of Messiah (like a lamb) but really serve Satan (the dragon). They are pushing the world into their One World Government, to exalt their god Satan.
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David Carrico says that the ‘great city’ in Revelation 11 is Jerusalem, in Revelation 17 it’s Rome and in Revelation 18 it’s New York city.
This is a false narrative. We see that Messiah declared in Revelation 1:19 ‘Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter.’ In other words, we need to view Revelation from the perspective that John had, about what was past, what was the circumstances when he wrote down the vision, and what was future.
The ‘great city’ of John’s day is Rome, the city of seven hills. The Roman beast kingdom was in power. So it’s the great city of Revelation 11, 17 and 18.
Proclaiming that it’s three different things is absurd and very misleading!
David Carrico says that Israel is all over the place in Revelation.
The opposite is true, as most of Revelation is about Rome. Messiah gave us a historical narrative of the Satan-empowered leaders of the Roman beast kingdom fighting against Messiah’s saints.
The antichrist beast is the primary figure. He is one who comes in the place of Christ, who pretends to be his representative, but deceives people. That is what the Popes do as they proclaim to lead Messiah’s church but they teach a false Gospel and that Mary is the intercessor to the Father. They now deceive 1.3 billion Catholics.
The Popes take the title of the “Vicar of Christ” which means in place of Christ, which is antichrist. The Popes have already proclaimed to be God, to be Jesus Christ in the flesh, to forgive sins and to provide salvation; which is blasphemy.
The Popes have banned and burned the Scriptures, and caused tens of millions of saints to be killed during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition.
The office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn‘ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition’ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the ‘antichrist beast’ of Revelation 13, who leads the ‘harlot’ church of Rome.
Read Revelation 13 – The Roman Sea Beast Phase
David Carrico and Jon Pounders of Midnight Ride are very knowledgeable and likable, and they cite Scripture and seem very authoritative. But the bottom line with anyone teach Revelation prophecy fulfillment, is ‘are they exposing the enemy of Messiah and His saints?‘
David and Jon teach a futuristic son of perdition and antichrist; but the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill those roles.
They also teach a futuristic Revelation great tribulation period, but that was fulfilled during the 1,260 year reign of power of the antichrist beast Popes, from 538-1798 AD, when they caused Catholics to kill over 50 million saints.
What David and Jon teach, misleads people and deflects blame from the antichrist beast Pope and the false prophet Jesuit Superior General. We can’t win the battle against the enemy, if we don’t know their identity.
They teach that Mystery Babylon is the whole world system, but it’s the Roman Catholic Church, the idolatrous which the Popes proclaim is Messiah’s one true church. Their priests wear purple and scarlet, and use the golden cup during their Babylonian Eucharist ceremony which mimics the rebirth of their incarnate christ child, Tammuz.
The Jesuits of the Vatican control the world through their many front organizations of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, the Knights of Malta, the Knights of Columbus, etc. So their Babylonian system has influence everywhere, but the harlot who has shed the blood of the saints is the Roman Catholic Church of the antichrist beast Pope which now deceives 1.3 billion Catholics with a false salvation message.
I’ve searched through all of the David Carrico and Jon Pounders of Midnight Ride videos, and did not see one of them exposing the antichrist beast Pope and false prophet Jesuit Superior General.
These are the very enemy’s of Messiah, who He will came and capture. They are the enemy of Messiah’s saints and they use people groups to covertly make war with believers. They are the enemy of the world, as they push it into their One World Government.
And yet David and Jon are not identifying them as such, which tells you that they are either very ignorant or they are controlled opposition. If you know of videos from them that expose the antichrist beast Pope and false prophet Jesuit Superior General, let me know.
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Hi there, very interesting read thus far.
I watch David Carrico & Jon Pounders quite often & also Sean Griffin from Kingdom In Context, I find them all very encouraging.
But now I have read your summary & I am left with questions.
May I ask you, if much of the book of Revelation has happened as you claim it has (no disrespect meant), then where are we in the stream of the timeline of ‘Revelation’ ? What ‘should’ we actually be looking for?
Hi Daz, thank you for your comment. I agree that David Carrico and Jon Pounders are very encouraging people.
This Revelation Fulfillment Timeline shows what’s been fulfilled (most of it); where we’re at on the timeline (in the sixth vial); and what we should look for next as we await Messiah’s return. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/revelation-fulfillment-timeline-summary/
You can request a free PDF copy of the Revelation Timeline Decoded Book Summary on the home page of the website, which gives more information: https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/
And the Revelation Timeline Decoded video series explains it out in much more detail: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY8Cq8enpfGfD_9b9cfcgCWhdYWUNNZq7
I hope that helps you see more of the glory of Messiah in the fulfillment of prophecy.
Contact me anytime as it’s a lot to take in, since the narrative is very different that what we’re being taught.
This is wrong also please watch gene Kim’s explanation for the truth. I find it quite odd that you say that the very elective and then also reference Matthew24 where in Matthew 2424 it’s dates that The very elect would be deceived if it were possible so it’s not possible
I prove out my statements in the studies. Did you bother to read them?
David I believe you may be an island all by yourself. Who else can you sight has this same interpretation? Millions of saints have therefore got it wrong? The God I serve would not allow his saints to be this far off in their understanding of scripture. I can understand a little discrepancy between premil, postmil and even amil. But the later of those are usually lovers of their academia and find it glamorous to be different. Certainly you are suppressing that little small voice that says keep it simple. No?
Phil, I’m not alone in my interpretation. Apparently you’re ignorant of what the saints have taught during the last 1,900 years.
The Seventh Day Adventist Church, which has 20 million members, teaches the historical explanation of prophecy fulfillment, like I do. They teach that the 70th week of Daniel 9 was about Messiah’s multiyear ministry and His confirming the covenant with His blood as the Spotless Lamb; and that it’s not about an end-times 7-year tribulation period or the antichrist.
Read the Bible commentaries from the great theologians of the 16th-19th centuries; people like Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, John Gill and Matthew Poole; and you see that they gave the historicist narrative of the fulfillment of Revelation.
Read EB Elliott who wrote Horae Apocalyptae, which is a 2000 page explanation of the fulfillment of Revelation. It has 10,000 reference citations and gives the historicist narrative.
Read pastor Henry Grattan Guinness, who wrote Romanism and the Reformation, History Unveils Prophecy and other books which give the historicist narrative.
In the 16th century, all of the Protestant Reformers proclaimed that the office of the papacy, the popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn’ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition’ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and ‘the (antichrist) beast’ of Revelation 13, who leads the ‘harlot’ church of Rome. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/prophecy-points-to-the-leader-of-the-roman-beast/
The Church of England, Church of Scotland Confession of Faith, Lutheran Confession of Faith of 1603, Irish Articles of Religion of 1615, London Baptist Confession of 1689, and Westminster Confession of Faith; all witnessed against the antichrist popes and their apostate church.
There’s many more witnesses, some who paid for the testimony with their lives as they were burned at the stake. Nobody does that for a theory. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/historic-witnesses-against-the-antichrist-beast-the-popes-of-rome/
It’s only during the last few centuries that the saints have believed the futuristic explanation of the fulfillment of Revelation. Before that, the saints taught that the prophecies in Revelation have been in the process of being fulfilled since it was written.
The Jesuit priests created the false futuristic prophecy fulfillment explanations in the 16th century, to deflect blame away from the pope. The saints rejected their explanations for hundreds of years, but during the last century they’ve caused the futuristic explanations to be taught at Dallas Theological Seminary, so that they’ve spread around the world. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/how-the-leaven-of-the-end-times-prophecy-deceptions-spread/
Many millions of saints have taught the historicist narrative of prophecy fulfillment. Sadly, people like David Carrico and Jon Pounders have become experts at teaching the false futuristic narrative.
And now you’re accountable for knowing the truth, because you’re on this website where I provide the evidence for those who have eyes to see. I pray that you search for truth as the Spirit led you here for a reason.
Th Bible Prophecy Decoded website provides a path of learning the historist explanations. https://bibleprophecydecoded.com
Keep pressing on for the glory of our King!
Wow you have read a lot of books and studied a lot of men. Have you prayfully read the Bible as much? Seems you have allowed the world to dictate your truth and misguided theology. I have been saved since a child and taught be the Holy Spirit. My personal relationship with Christ Jesus the Lord has never led me to believe what you teach. I believe you lack discernment. Put all that worldly garbage away and pray the Lord for His knowledge and wisdom. I simply was searching David Carrico to discern who and what he believes. Your site came up, by I suppose, your design. To sell your garbage? I have read your doctrine of demons and believe you are not saved.
Phil, I’ve studied Scripture in-depth, but since you proclaimed that I am alone in my interpretation, I pointed to other people who teach the same prophecy fulfillment explanations as I do.
Instead of acknowledging that you were wrong about me being alone in my interpretation, you now wrongly proclaim that I’ve studied men! SMH!
Why were you searching for information about David Carrico? So that you could learn from men? 😛
I offer everything for free: fulfillment summaries, video explanations, audio podcasts and PDF copies of my books; so your accusation about me proclaiming this to sell things is without merit.
And now you question my salvation. Amazing!
Worse than you being off-target about prophecy fulfillment is your mean spirit.
My looking into Carrico after viewing him on YouTube is me testing the spirits to see if they are in line with scripture. Same as today when I starting to realize that you may be a 7th Day Adventist and this prompted me to look into what you are teaching. And now I understand where your eschatology is coming from however I respectfully disagree as I am not historic but rather futuristic. So if I am correct that you are an Adventist I owe you an apology about questioning your salvation as I agree mostly with the essentials of Adventists and respect many in your camp and especially share your contempt of all things Roman Catholic with the primary exception of the whole elevation of Ellen G White above scripture issues. So for that I am truly sorry. I am not 100% sure of your salvation but if you are I would hope you have assurance of your salvation and not in the teachings of Ellen G White as she has been proven to be a false teacher according to Duet 18. Not to mention the whole 1844 doctrine of investigative judgement debacle which I’m sure you are aware. But please do consider that the Adventist are barely a 200 year old, very new religion, that just recently came on the scene in these last days like the Hovies and the Mormons.
Phil, I’m not a Seventh Day Adventist nor do I believe the teachings of Ellen G White. I cited the SDA Church which has 20 million members, as you said I’m alone in my interpretation and they teach historicism like I do.
But it seems that they’ve been infiltrated by the enemy, as some of their primary teachings, such as their explanation of the mark of the beast being about a Sunday rest, are off-target. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/seventh-day-adventist-false-prophecy-fulfillment-teachings/
I expose the evil ways of the Roman Catholic Church, which teaches a false Gospel and that Mary is the intercessor to the Father. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/prophecy-points-to-the-roman-catholic-church/
I try to help Catholics see that what the popes teach is contrary to Scripture, so that they have a covenant relationship with the Heavenly Father through faith in His Son alone: https://romancatholicbeliefs.org/
I expose the son of perdition popes who cause Catholics to break the ten commandments. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/the-son-of-perdition-of-2-thessalonians-2/
I follow the narrow road of Scriptural truth, not the doctrine of men.
You’re absolutely correct, David. The same night the LORD saved me, His Spirit took me to Revelation and the Book of Daniel in that order and showed me exactly what you’ve posted. I became a Historicist when I had no idea what it meant at the time, as I had very little understanding of Scripture and history up until the LORD drew me in; He has sanctified me through His Truth since. This Futurism/Dispensationalism has fooled the world, including the elect. Carrico speaks out against Dispensationalism, yet he spread Futurist ideas. It’s also concerning how David Carrico calls out Gnosticism (Gnosticism is absolutely Satanic), yet he reads from extra-Biblical, Gnostic doctrine such as the Book of Jasher. This reveals extreme ignorance to me or opposed opposition, just as you said. David Carrico has a cult-like following and I’ve had many who follow him message me to challenge the Word based on Carrico’s words, and/or block me (I have a ministry page on Instagram). I feel he is misleading so many and causing a lot of rifts in the Church.
We are to worship in spirit and in Truth (God’s Word). It is our independent responsibility to prayerfully and carefully, through the Spirit, search the Scriptures…. We should never rely on man!
God bless you, brother. Keep spreading God’s Truth
Thank you for sharing your story Madison! I appreciate how the Spirit has guided your path to truth, so that you can see the historicist narrative of prophecy fulfillment and the deceptions of futurism which has misled so many people.
I don’t want people to blind trust anything that I teach, but to compare it to Scripture and history, and to pray for truth.
Yeah, the enemy is creating a lot of division in Messiah’s Ekklesia by blind them and setting them against each other.
This website provides a learning track to share with others. You can save and print PDF summaries to share with people to try to open their eyes. https://bibleprophecydecoded.com
Contact me anytime to let me know how I can help you Madison.
Keep pressing on for the glory of our King!
So just to be crystal clear. You disagree that prophecies mentioned in the Bible are never 2 or 3 fold in history? And you would believe that the events in the book of Revelation has already happened?
I took your advice you gave to David and have been listening to Gene Kim. I can’t find anything that I disagree with from him. He is spot on with my theology. I like his model for reading scripture 1. Who is it speaking to and 2. To what time period is it speaking. Very simple. Thanks for sharing
Phil, No, I don’t believe that specific prophecies are fulfilled 2 or 3 times in history. But the same type of symbolism is used in different prophecies.
An example is the darkening of the sun, moon and stars, which can symbolize a leadership system losing power. There are instances of the darkening of the sun, moon and stars in Isaiah 13:10, Isaiah 34:3-5 and Ezekiel 32:6-8; which point to a leadership system being removed from power. So we understand the symbolic language that Messiah is using.
In the Olivet Discourse, Messiah is pointing to the Jewish High Priest (sun), Sanhedrin (moon) and priests (stars) being killed or taken captive as slaves during the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD.
In the sixth seal of Revelation, Messiah is pointing to the mighty Roman Empire going through political upheaval, as the Emperors warred against each other. Eastern Emperor Constantine defeated Diocletian’s army in 312 AD, which ended the persecutions. Diocletian (the sun) was so panic stricken, he died insane. Constantine defeated emperors Maxentius and Licinius to become sole ruler of both west and east by 324 AD. The Roman leaders (stars) fell and their power receded as a scroll. The mountains and islands that were moved out of place, were the countries and people that were affected by this political change.
In the fourth trumpet, Messiah is pointing to Odoacer and the Heruli causing the downfall of Roman leadership when Romulus Augustalus, the Western Roman Emperor (the sun) was captured in 476 AD, which ended the office of the Western Roman Emperor. The hierarchy of Roman leaders (moon and stars) lost power too as the Empire was falling.
With respect, I just seek out as much information as possible and my impression of their research is that they are also just seeking truth too. If individuals are truly longing for and seeking truth they will consider as many interpretations, from as many other seekers who share what they are finding in their research as possible. What is important is that we bring everything to the Lord before simply accepting the conclusions drawn (if they are actually drawing hard conclusions) by those sharing what they are finding in their research, and what they think it might mean, so as not to be deceived. We can’t know the heart of others or if they are bringing all their findings/understandings to the Lord, but we can listen to it and bring it to Him ourselves. I am openly considering your claims and reasoning for those conclusions here, but I don’t take anybody’s word for anything without first bringing everything to the Lord. The Gospel is paramount. Wanting to understand how it all works, digging deeper and trying to interpret every little symbolic thing is great, but it opens up many opportunities for pride (I’m right, they’re wrong), division, condemnation, and can create even more confusion when it’s possible that the fellow believer is simply searching deeper and enjoys discussing and sharing with other believers who have the same interest. As long as they do not preach a different Gospel, it doesn’t build up the body of Christ to be divided over things that do not need to be understood for salvation. Time is too short. We need to be bringing the Truth of the Gospel to the lost before they lose their eternal souls, not arguing with other believers. We really don’t have time to be wasted on what crown symbolizes what in Revelation. There’s nothing wrong with digging into it and searching to understand more, but it does nothing to bring together followers of Christ, who believe the core Gospel that He expects us to share, and only hinders our mission.
Amy, David Carrico and Jon Pounders are not giving different options of prophecy fulfillment, just the futuristic one which they are declaring as the truth. They are public figures teaching the fulfillment of prophecy, not individuals who are weighing the options.
Any teacher who is basing their explanation of Revelation on the concept of a future 70th week of Daniel 9, the 7-year tribulation period, is misleading you. The 70 weeks of Daniel 9 prophecy foretold when Messiah would appear to carry out His ministry, and when (in the middle of the 70th week) He would confirm the (everlasting) covenant (that was mentioned in Daniel 9:4) with His blood as the Passover Lamb, to atone for our sins. It’s not about the end times or the antichrist. https://70thweekofdaniel.com
In the 16th century, all of the Protestant Reformers proclaimed that the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn’ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition’ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the ‘beast’ of Revelation 13, who leads the ‘harlot’ church of Rome. It’s not just one man in the end-times. http://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/prophecy-points-to-the-leader-of-the-roman-beast/
Most of the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years, as the Satan-empowered leaders of the Roman beast kingdom have fought against Messiah and His saints. The pagan Roman Emperors tried to wipe out the early church, killing millions. The Roman Popes banned and burned the Scriptures and caused tens of millions of saints to be killed during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition. These are the things that Messiah is pointing to in His apocalyptic vision. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com
The first verse in Revelation declares “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass.” Messiah is proclaiming that the prophecies in Revelation started to be fulfilled shortly after it was written down by John, not 2,000 years later.
If you study the explanations and see the historicist narrative of prophecy fulfillment, then you will know why I write video reviews like this. It’s not a personal attack on their character, just an assessment of their teaching about prophecy fulfillment.
As for proclaiming the Gospel, if people don’t understand that the Roman Catholic Church is the harlot of Revelation 17, then they don’t see that 1.3 billion Catholics have been misled by a false gospel of works through the sacraments and that Mary is the intercessor, which denies Messiah. Are David Carrico and Jon Pounders telling you this truth?
As for whether it’s important to know what a crown symbolizes in Revelation, I think that the tens of millions of saints who were tortured and killed by the Roman Emperors during ten persecution periods, and by the Roman popes during the Dark Ages and Inquisition,
would think that understanding Revelation is very important. https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/historic-witnesses-against-the-antichrist-beast-the-popes-of-rome/
“Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.” Revelation 1:3
If you don’t understand the prophecies in Revelation, then you don’t know where we’re at on the fulfillment timeline and the context of Messiah return. “Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” Revelation 16:15
If you want to understand why I teach the historicist explanations, this website gives a learning track: https://bibleprophecydecoded.com/
The historical fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel 9, the Olivet Discourse, and most of the prophecies in Revelation validate the authority of the Bible and the deity of Messiah. It is a tool to use to prove the truth of Messiah and the Gospel to a lost world, but the false, futuristic deceptions hide these truths.
I pray that you will be a Berean and study these explanations. Compare them to Scripture and history. Bring them before the Lord. And seek truth, not to defend a belief.