This Revelation Timeline Decoded post features a video from Dr. Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship called When Did John Write The Book Of Revelation?
This message was preached by Pastor Chuck Baldwin on Sunday, May 29, 2022, during the service at Liberty Fellowship.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that historical pre-millenialism/post-millenialism/amillenialism are all Jesus based, and that our differences are not worth fighting over.
He says that some historicists are childish, obstinate, argumentative and warlike; that they are a hindrance to the cause of Christ by the way that they attack and fight other good men due to minor differences of prophetic interpretation.
Some of his church members know about my reviews of his videos and may have shared them with him, so he may be pointing to me. If that’s the case, then show me how the language in my reviews has been childish, obstinate, argumentative and warlike?
Giving a validate explanation of the fulfillment of prophecy which exposes the fallacy of Chuck Baldwin’s preterist explanations is none of those things, for we are called to proclaim truth and expose false teachings.
Hypocritically, in this video, Pastor Baldwin childishly mocks futurists and historicists with his argumentative points, to get his audience to laugh.
As for ‘being a hindrance to the cause of Christ,’ it’s the very opposite, as showing the exacting fulfillment of most of the prophecies in Revelation during the last 1900 years proves the authority of the Bible and the deity of Messiah. It shows the glory of Messiah who foretold these events and has worked through His saints to counter the attacks of the enemy.
As for fighting other good men, you may be a good man in character, but if you’re giving false prophecy fulfillment explanations which mislead your audience, that won’t be deemed as good when you stand before your Righteous Judge to give an account. My rebuttals of Pastor Baldwin’s videos serve as a warning to him. If he would read the studies, watch the videos and read the book, he may see the truth, but he thinks that he already knows the truth and he remains obstinate.
There’s nothing MINOR about the differences between preterism and historicism, for they are completely different narratives when it comes to the fulfillment of Revelation.
Preterists and futurists teach the historical fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel 9 and the Olivet Discourse in the first century, but that’s where the similarity ends.
Preterists proclaim that Emperor Nero was the antichrist. Historicists show how the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn’ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition’ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the ‘beast’ of Revelation 13, who lead the harlot church of Rome. Those are huge differences!
Preterists proclaim that most of the prophecies in Revelation were fulfilled in the first century, and have nothing do to with the saints of the last 1,900 years. Historicists show how most of the prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years; and that they are about what the saints faced as Satan used the pagan Roman Emperors and antichrist beast Popes to make war against them. Those are huge differences!
Preterists don’t assign any Revelation prophecy to the apostate Roman Catholic Church. Historicists show how Revelation 17 describes the harlot papal church which is led by the antichrist beast Popes of Rome; which has misled billions of Catholics with a false gospel message of works through the sacraments and that Mary is the intercessor to the Father. Those are huge differences!
Preterists don’t assign any Revelation prophecy to the false religion of Islam which has deceived billions of people. Historicists show how Catholics helped write the Qur’an and prop up Mohammed as the leader of Islam in the sixth century during the fifth trumpet and they used Muslims to carry out attacks on Christians and Jews. Those are huge differences!
Preterists don’t assign any Revelation prophecy to what we see taking place today in the world. Historicists show how we’re in the sixth vial judgment, as the Ottoman Empire (Euphrates River) has dried up, the Khazar Jews (kings of the east) have taken control of Palestine, two world wars have reshaped the world and we’re waiting on WW III and a worldwide economic collapse to push the world into the One World Government. Those are huge differences!
Preterists have no end-times explanation for the mark of the beast, as they think that Nero was the antichrist. Historicists show how revering and obeying the antichrist beast Pope is the mark of the beast. When the worldwide economy collapses, people around the world will revere and obey the Pope as a uniting leader, to be able to buy and sell again, which has huge implications of having the mark of the beast! Those are huge differences!
Preterists assign the role of the false prophet to people who deceived Jews during the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD. The two horns of the earth beast phase of the Roman beast kingdom (in Revelation 13), are the antichrist beast Pope and false prophet Jesuit Superior General, the white pope and the black pope. They pretend to be priests of Messiah (like a lamb) but serve Satan (the dragon) to make war with Messiah and His saints. Those are huge differences!
The bottom line is that Preterism serves to deflect blame away from the antichrist beast Pope and false prophet Jesuit Superior General, which is exactly why these false prophecy fulfillment explanations were created by the Jesuits.
Note: Pastor Chuck Baldwin doesn’t allow comments on his YouTube video, as he doesn’t allow others to counter his explanations. So posts like this serve as a public rebuttal of his explanations.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the key that unlocks the door of understanding Revelation is when it was written.
Preterists have to make this case for their explanation to seem to fit the narrative, but there’s abundant proof that the prophecies in Revelation have been in the process of being fulfilled since it was written, so the timing of the writing of Revelation has no effect on the fulfillment of Revelation.
What unlocks the door of understanding is knowing how Messiah used symbolic language to point to a literal fulfillment. If you don’t understand the symbols which are defined primarily in the Old Testament, you won’t understand the fulfillment.
Read Revelation Is Symbolic And Literal
What unlocks the door of understanding is knowing how Messiah gave the narrative of four chronological layers which span from Messiah’s first advent until His return.
- Revelation 2-3 describe seven church eras, describing what they would face as Satan uses the Roman beast kingdom to fight against them physically and spiritually.
- Revelation 12-13 describes the Satan-empowered leaders of the Roman beast kingdom who fight against Messiah and His saints: the pagan Emperors > the antichrist beast Popes > the false prophet Jesuit Superior Generals.
- Revelation 17 which describes the antichrist beast Popes rise to power out of the fallen Roman Empire, who leads the harlot church of Rome, whose priests wears purple and scarlet, who use the golden cup during their blasphemous Eucharist ceremony, who have been drunk with the blood of tens of millions of saints during the Dark Ages and Inquisition.
- The seals, trumpets vials, little book of Revelation 10, the two witnesses of Revelation, the harvest of Revelation 14, etc., span from the first century until Messiah’s return.
When you overlap the four layers on a timeline, you notice how they interrelate and see the whole vision.
Read Revelation Is A Layered War Manual
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship cites Luke 21:20-21 and says that the abomination of desolation took place in 70 AD.
That is wrong, as the Roman legions of Vespasian and Titus surrounded Jerusalem before Nero died in June 68 AD, not in 70 AD. The saints had to escape before the civil war in Jerusalem, as the Jewish rebels were a greater threat than the Roman army.
Daniel 12:11 says that there’s 1290-days in between the abomination of desolation and the time that the temple sacrifice is taken away. Josephus documents that the temple sacrifices were stopped in 70 AD, so it’s not possible for the abomination of desolation to also take place in 70 AD.
The abomination of desolation took place when Cestius and his army surrounded Jerusalem in November 66 AD, to take Jerusalem captive. Then for no explained reason, Cestius and his army left, and when the Jewish rebels chased after them, it gave opportunity for the saints to flee to the mountains for safety before the Jewish-Roman War of 66-70 AD.
Then 1290 days later, the temple sacrifices were stopped when the Romans flooded into Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Read Abomination Of Desolation
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the book of Revelation is John’s account of the Olivet Discourse.
There’s no way to apply the detailed description of the seals, trumpets, vials, little book of Revelation 10, the two witnesses of Revelation 11, etc.; to a fulfillment before 70 AD. Preterists tend to say that some of those prophecies are symbolic, so it will be interesting to see how Pastor Baldwin explains them in his upcoming videos in this series.
There’s ample proof in my Revelation Timeline Decoded video series and book, that most of the prophecies in Revelation have been fulfilled during the last 1,900 years; which invalidates Pastor Baldwin’s statement.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says Luke 21:24 matches Revelation 11:2, saying that it’s about the Jewish temple.
Revelation 11 is not about a physical temple. The temple that’s being referred to is the Ekklesia of Messiah, His church, as He is the cornerstone, the disciples the foundation and the saints the stones which make up the walls. That’s the temple in which the Father dwells.
“Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” Ephesians 2:19-22
The command in Revelation 11:1-2 was primarily fulfilled by Martin Luther, a Catholic monk, who was given the Scriptures and told to compare what the Popes teach against the rule of the Word.
What Luther found out is that the Roman Catholic Church is an apostate church and is not part of the true temple of God. They’re delegated to the outer court of gentiles. They look like they’re part of the temple, but they’re not.
Read Revelation 11 – Measuring The Temple
While were on the topic, William Tyndale translated the Scriptures into English and Martin Luther translated them into German; and with the timely advent of the printing press, the little book of Revelation 10, the printed Bible was created.
Read Revelation 10 – The Little Book
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship notes that Adam Clarke says that Revelation 1:7 is a presumptive proof that Revelation was written before 70 AD.
Adam Clarke said, All the tribes of the land. By this the Jewish people are most evidently intended, and therefore the whole verse may be understood as predicting the destruction of the Jews; and is a presumptive proof that the Apocalypse was written before the final overthrow of the Jewish state.
Though the Jewish nation was effectively desolated in 70 AD, another revolt took place in 132 AD. The misrule of Roman Judean governor Tinnius Rufus and Emperor Hadrian’s desire to establish a Roman colony on the site of Jerusalem, led to the final war, the Bar Kokhba Revolt. The Jews had some initial success, but Roman general Julius Severus overcame them.
After the defeat of Bar Kokhba (132–135 AD), Hadrian was determined to wipe out Judea’s identity and renamed it Syria Palaestina.
This event marked the final overthrow of the Jewish state, so we see that John’s statement in Revelation 1:7, and Adam Clarke’s commentary, can apply to this time. And we see that it doesn’t prove that Revelation was written before 70 AD.
This is a classic example of Pastor Baldwin cherry-picking information to be able to cite esteemed theologians, to make it seem like they’re validating his explanation.
But Adam Clarke doesn’t teach that Revelation is John’s version of the Olivet Discourse or that it’s about the desolation of Jerusalem, the temple and the Jewish nation!
In Revelation 13, Adam Clarke points to the Latin church of the antichrist beast Popes of Rome, as the enemy of Messiah and His saints. In Revelation 17, Adam Clarke again points to the harlot Roman Catholic Church as ‘Mystery, Babylon the Great.’
Adam Clarke says that the trumpet judgments are against the Roman Empire as army after army were sent to attack it during the 5th-15th centuries, culminating in the Turks attacking the eastern Roman Empire in the sixth trumpet judgment, leading to the fall of Constantinople.
Pastor Baldwin lacks integrity by citing Clarke when Adam teaches the opposite of Chuck about the fulfillment of Revelation!
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the seven letters in Revelation 2-3 are to the seven existing churches in the first century.
Given that these seven churches are so close to each other, it makes no sense that they would experience dramatically different circumstances in the first century. Instead, Messiah is pointing to seven church eras which span from His first advent until His return.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that dispensational futurists teach that the seven churches of Revelation 2-3 are church ages. But most Christians today are futurists and they don’t proclaim these things.
I looked through several articles from DTS President John F Walwoord (whom Chuck cited) about Revelation 2-3, and I don’t see that he points to church ages lining up with the years 312, 590, 1500 or 1750. Walwoord may have said that, but DTS graduates do not teach it. Hal Lindsey, David Jeremiah, Chuck Swindoll, etc. don’t teach this concept, so Pastor Baldwin is creating a false association.
Pastor Baldwin mocks that the Smyrna church age ended in 312 AD; ‘not 311, not 313, 312.’ He asks ‘how do they come up with those dates?’
It’s pretty straight-forward when you understand history. The early church endured ten persecution periods from the Satan-empowered Roman Emperors. The worst one was the tenth which lasted ten years from 303-312 AD, as Diocletian sought to wipe out Messiah’s Ekklesia of saints.
This is the ‘ten days of tribulation’ that Messiah foretold that the church era of Smyrna would face, as one day points to one prophetic year. Revelation 2:10 says “Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.”
Revelation 12:11 points to the martyrs of the Roman Emperors winning the victory, “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”
The Smyrna martyrs also lines up with Messiah’s words in the fifth seal in Revelation 6:10-11, “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
The name Smyrna is based on the word myrrh, which is a spice for burial. It symbolizes death. The blood of the Smyrna church era saints cried out for vengeance against the pagan Roman Empire for persecuting them.
Justice came during the trumpet judgments as army after army were sent against the Empire, which led the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 AD as part of the fourth trumpet judgment against the sun (the leader), when the Western Roman Emperor was removed from power. The Eastern Roman Empire fell in 1453 AD as part of the sixth trumpet judgment when the Turks conquered Constantinople by using large cannons (fire, smoke and brimstone) to knock down the thick protective walls. The fulfillment of these detailed prophecies invalidates the preterist explanation!
Pastor Chuck Baldwin mocks that the last church age of Laodicea goes on into infinity! What a childish statement! The last church era ends when Messiah returns.
Ironically, in Messiah’s letter to the end-times church era of Laodicea, He said “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.”
Pastor Baldwin thinks that he’s rich in understanding the fulfillment of Revelation, but he is blindly following (or purposely promoting) the teachings of the Jesuits of Rome who created the Preterist narrative to deflect blame away from the antichrist beast Popes.
Read Revelation 2-3 Seven Church Eras
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship cites Revelation 1:1 ‘things which must shortly come to pass’ and Revelation 1:1 ‘the time is at hand’ to imply that the Preterist view is correct.
Those verses simply mean that the prophecies would begin to be fulfilled shortly after Revelation was written. We see how that’s the case, as the first seal points to the time of Emperor Trajan who conquered nations during his 98-117 AD reign, which was when the Empire was at it’s height of power.
Trajan used white horses and wore a laurel wreath crown in his military victory parades. He’s of the Nerva–Antonine dynasty (96–192) of Emperors who were not Roman, but were descendants of the Isle of Crete, who were famous bowmen. Messiah is pointing to the Emperors of Nerva by saying that they have a bow.
On this Roman coin, we see the Emperor with a crown, riding on a horse during a victory parade.
The red horse of the second seal represents a bloody time in the Roman Empire from 185-284 AD, as it went into a phase of revolution and civil war for 90 years, during which there were 32 emperors and 27 contenders for the throne.
The black horse of the third seal represents a period of gloom and despair, as the Romans suffered under excessive taxes that were needed to pay for wars. The pricing for wheat and barley point to food scarcity from 222-235 AD.
The pale horse of the fourth seal represents 1/4th of Romans dying from famine, plague, pestilence and violence, from 250-300 AD. The word ‘earth‘ is pointing to the Roman Empire as the ‘land’ of prophecy.
Read Revelation 6 – 1st Seal White Horse
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that the only interpretation that is devilish and harmful is Scofield futurism.
Though futurism is of the devil as it was created by the Society of Satan in Rome, the Jesuits; preterism is also from the Jesuits, as they created these two false narratives to deflect blame away from the Pope, as the Protestant Reformers all proclaimed that the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, fulfill Bible prophecy as the ‘little horn’ of Daniel 7, the ‘son of perdition’ of 2 Thessalonians 2, and the ‘beast’ of Revelation 13, who lead the harlot church of Rome.
Read Prophecy Points To The Leader Of The Roman Beast Study and Prophecy Points To The Roman Catholic Church Study
Preterism is just as harmful as futurism, as it dismisses all that the saints face between Messiah’s first advent and His return. It leaves the saints without an understanding of the mark of the beast, and leaves them unprepared for Messiah’s return.
And Preterism serves to deflect blame away from the primary enemy of the saints and the whole world, the false prophet Jesuit Superior General who controls the world via three city-state corporations and many front organizations.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin preaches about Republicans versus Democrats, but that’s a charade, as both parties are filled with Catholics and people who have been trained by the Jesuits. They play different roles to use the U.S. to push the world into their One World Government.
Their evil plan is declared on the U.S. One Dollar Bill, which features a 13-step Freemasonry pyramid with the all-seeing eye of Satan above it, with Latin words which declare the New Order of the Ages. We see the Freemasonry numbers of 13, 32 and 33 on the reverse side of the great seal.
Read The Jesuits Helped Found America, To Use It As Their War Machine
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that historical premillenialists are preterists too.
He said that because historicists believe that much of Revelation has been fulfilled, this means that they are partial preterists.
That’s a nonsensical false association, as a preterist believes that most of the prophecies in Revelation were fulfilled in the first century. Historicists do not believe that!
Historicist prove out how the prophecies describe events that take place between Messiah’s first advent and His return.
Read Revelation Timeline
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Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that Dallas Theological Seminary roots go back to Scofield.
It’s true that DTS co-founder Lewis Sperry Chafer was the protege of Cyrus Scofield, but Pastor Baldwin makes it seem like Scofield originated the futurist teachings. Once again, he’s deflecting blame away from the Jesuits of Rome who created futurism in the 16th century to counter the Reformation, to deflect blame away from the antichrist beast Pope.
Read How The Deceptions Spread
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship says that Revelation 17:10 proves that Revelation was written before 70 AD.
He says that the the Jews identified Emperors with kings, and says that five emperors had passed before John wrote Revelation. But there were only four emperors before Nero: Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula and Claudius; so Pastor Baldwin’s explanation invalidates itself.
He says Nero was the sixth emperor/king, which is not true as he was the fifth emperor of the Julio-Claudian dynasty (27 BC – AD 68).
He says that the seventh emperor lasted seven months, a short time, before Vespasian (the eighth) became emperor in 69 AD. But that’s misleading as there were three emperors between Nero and Vespasian, Galba, Otho, Vitellius; not one.
In Revelation 17:9-11, the eighth king is the primary character, who rose to power out of the previous seven. Pastor Baldwin says that Nero was the sixth king, which is not the focus, so his explanation and references are askew.
The Apostle John is pointing to seven forms of government of the Roman Empire. At the time that John wrote Revelation, five forms of the Roman kingdom had come and gone; 1) Kings, 2) Consuls, 3) Dictators, 4) Decemvirs, and 5) Military Tribunes.
The sixth form of the Roman government was the Imperial head, commencing with Octavian, better known as Augustus Caesar. This form of government existed in John’s day and was in power until the last emperor was removed in 476 A.D.
During the ‘short space‘ until the eighth king would arrive; the seventh head of the Roman beast was the Dukedom of Rome. Renowned historian Edward Gibbon tells us that Italy was divided unequally between the kingdom of the Lombards and the Exarchate of Ravenna.
Then the eighth king, the antichrist beast Popes of Rome were given civil and ecclesiastic authority in 538 AD. They ruled for 1260 years, until they were removed from power in 1798 AD during the fifth vial judgment on the seat of the antichrist beast Popes.
Revelation 17 clearly describes the harlot church of Rome, which carries out the Babylonian Mystery Religion with a veneer of the Scriptural faith, thus her name ‘Mystery, Babylon the Great.’ They’ve historically misled billions with a false gospel and they’ve made war with the saints, which is anti-Christ.
Read Revelation 17 – Mystery Babylon and Revelation 18 – Babylon Destroyed
The bottom line of Pastor Church Baldwin’s teaching in this sermon is that the date of the writing of Revelation really doesn’t matter.
I prove out the historical fulfillment of most of the prophecies in Revelation during the last 1,900 years, which validate historicist explanations and invalidates the preterist explanation of Pastor Chuck Baldwin.
Messiah’s apocalyptic vision is a war manual, designed to hide the explanation from those who should not understand it. It uses symbolic words that are defined in the Old Testament to point to a literal fulfillment. If you read Revelation only from a literal perspective, the interpretation is hidden.
Understanding the vision is like taking a Biblical final exam. If you’ve read the whole Word, you will have seen the symbolism that Messiah uses and can apply it to the fulfillment.
If you read Revelation as one chronological narrative, the prophecies seem out of sequence. That’s because it has four chronological layers, each of which spans from when it was written until Messiah returns.
This book explains the prophecies of Revelation on a timeline to help you see how the four chronological layers interact with each other, so that you can comprehend the whole vision.
You will learn how to identify who fulfills the role of the son of perdition, the antichrist beast, the false prophet, and the harlot called ‘Mystery, Babylon the Great.’ You will understand the proper context of the seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments; the little book of Revelation 10, and the two witnesses of Revelation 11.
Whether you’re a novice at Bible prophecy or someone who has studied it extensively, I provide an explanation that is easy to understand yet has the depth of verse by verse explanations to provide you the evidence you need to prove it out.
Here’s a link to YouTube videos about the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation.
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Nice to hear truth. Said one who went to a Dispensational school and was versed in Pre-Trib all my life
Thank your exposing the false teaching of Pastor Chuck Baldwin in Kalispell, MT.
It is quite evident that this man is not deceived but a deceiver. This is my opinon based on 2 years of watching this man, giving him the benefit of the doubt, and researching his, and yes, it is, a career (that should NOT be a career), in the ministry.
David, your word choice of “obstinate” could not have been a better word for Chuck Baldwin. Yet, it is the same word Baldwin uses for anyone that dares disagree with him or reveals truth in Scripture, history, and prophecy that doesn’t jive with his Biblical prophecy interpretation. The same pride he accuses others of having is the same pride he embraces.
What has been disturbing to me for the past two years in watching Chuck Baldwin is his refual to allow any comments on his videos. This is a red flag! This is the same CENSORSHIP that he preaches against being done to Americans by our governments but he does the same.
Chuck Baldwin refuses to answer my emails on simple (polite and honest) questions and issues. Chuck Baldwin refuses to answer anyone else’s emails that questions his interpretation. I know this for a fact – personal knowledge.
You are not the only one calling out the false teachings of Chuck Baldwin. It is not easy to do but it must be done. It is commanded of us to be done. Hold one to another accountable and responsible against the Scriptures. That goes for me too. I want to know the truth no matter how it feels, looks, or seems.
It is my opinion, and I have no reservations in saying this – Chuck Baldwin is a shill for the Papacy be it directly or indirectly. With that being said, he has aligned himself (and I’ve done my research in both the political and religious realms surrounding Chuck Baldwin) ecumenically with Roman Catholicism and the papal, antichrist beast kingdom of Rome that Daniel, Paul and John warned us about.
It is important to remember that Chuck Baldwin was and still is immersed in politics. Let me say that one more time. It is important to remember that Chuck Baldwin was and still is immersed in politics.
Finally, for those of you who haven’t heard Chuck’s “Come Out of Her My People” sermon you must. It is a complete deflection away from the 4th and final beast kingdom – Rome. It goes off into left field. It is not sound. It is full of inconsistencies and hypocrosies and it was the last straw for me.
Test everything and everyone against the Scriptures of Almighty God and faith in Jesus Christ our Savior.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
David, thank you again for the time and effort it took for you to write on this most important subject that should concern any believer of the Scriptures and redemption through Jesus Christ.
Thank you for your comment! I thought it was really odd that he didn’t get his facts right about the Roman Emperors. Do any of his followers proof-check him, or do they just blindly trust what he teaches? Yeah, not allowing comments is lame! I’ll watch the “Come Out of Her My People” sermon to understand his perspective better. It will be interesting to see how he explains the seals, trumpets and bowls.
Thank you for your reply.
In Re: “It will be interesting to see how he explains the seals, trumpets and bowls” – he doesn’t.
Fyi: It came to my attention last week by a Kalispell, MT area resident that Chuck Baldwin gave an interview in late 2019 discussing Zionism/Futurism. The interviewer?
Rick Wiles – the closet Catholic – papal apologist – former CBN [or TBN].
You can’t make this stuff up! Chuck Baldwin will take an interview with anyone as long as they take the focus off the Papacy and put it all on the Jews. This is SO Jesuitical! It’s as clear as day who Baldwin is. He has now jumped from futurism to preterism – both false, devilish prophecy explanations created by Jesuits.
Baldwin is lining up perfectly with the Roman Catholic ecumenical movement and I hope and pray people wake up to this now!
The Founding Fathers (many deists/masonic/Christ deniers) of this country were influenced by Jesuits and/or Roman Catholics. Hmmmm…. Chuck Baldwin loves loves loves the Founding Fathers BUT he NEVER mentions one thing about the Jesuit Carroll family or Thomas Jefferson rewriting the Bible or Ben(jamin) Franklin associating with occult practices or Washington’s rich masonic heritage and Catholic associations. #factchecked
As you say, keep learning in the Way!
Have a great day!!
Wow, that’s interesting that he was interviewed by Rick Wiles!
I watched his “Come out of Babylon, my people” video and he didn’t bother to explain who uses the ‘gold, and silver, and precious stone, and pearl, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel of most precious wood, and brass, and iron, and marble, cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour.’ It’s obvious that they describe the materials used in the many Catholic basilicas and the things that they use during the Babylonian ceremonies.
He points out that the harlot of Revelation carries out the Babylonian false god religion, but somehow doesn’t show the Egyptian obelisk in the middle of a sun wheel in St. Peter’s Square. I’ll make a review post about it sometime this week.
Hi David,
Sorry for the many typos (spelling errors for sure) in my post (ie comment). I did not proof it as I was in a hurry but that is NO excuse.
Best,
ACM
You did listen to the 2020 message, correct? “Come Out Of Her, My People” – Message by Dr. Chuck Baldwin on Sep. 20, 2020
Baldwin’s entire theme was that the Antichrist of the Bible is a “System”. Much of his message focused on the influence and historical events of pharmakeia which is great BUT…….
Do you see how he cleverly moves away from the Whore of Babylon, the Mystery Babylon Religion, the harlot church? He says some great things and presents some great truths BUT corporate pharmakeia is a symptom/residual of the serpent, beast! He REFUSES TO IDENTIFY THE 4TH AND FINAL BEAST KINGDOM – ROME that enriches and empowers the ‘kings of the earth’ that delivers the pharmakeia. That was my point.
Finally, you must know that Baldwin’s devotion to Ron Paul is not by accident.
Ron Paul surrounds himself with Roman Catholic and Jesuit trained/schooled puppets. From the anarchist group entitled “Anarchapulco” [NEW AGE to its core by the way] to the Roman Catholic/Jesuit ‘Mises Institute’ to Ron Paul’s liberty show, blog and column to the Austrian School of Economics Ron Paul is associated, THEY ARE ALL RUN, FOUNDED AND FUNDED BY JESUITS AND ROMAN CATHOLICS!
I’m done…said my peace.
Yeah, he spoke about a few verses in Revelation 18, but didn’t cover every detail. He talked about Revelation 18:23 a lot, he talked about Trump and he mocked futurists. All of that made it seem like he explained the chapter, but he left out a huge portion, all of which points to Rome. As you stated, he said that the antichrist is a system, not a man; which deflects blame away from the to leaders of the end-times earth beast phase of the Satan-empowered Roman beast kingdom.
Yeah, conservatives think that Ron Paul is defending them, but nothing ever come out of any speech that he gave, such as ending the Federal Reserve. He and Rand are puppets of Rome. All road lead to Rome and all the world is a stage!
Excellent researched article and breakdown of his sermon! I’m saving this writing.
I used to follow Baldwin especially when he first said he came out of futurism and preached on the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. But he never went any further. He focuses on Zionism and he ALWAYS alludes to the Constitution/Freedom as our savior instead of the mostly (but not all) fulfilled prophecies throughout 2000 years and deity of Jesus Christ.
Baldwin, RCC, and the governmental “Christian” churches etc. should read Matthew 15:7-9 along with the Matthew Henry notes. Baldwin et. al. seem to fit the “in vain” and “hypocrite” definition of which Jesus spoke. He along with the RCC uses “men’s inventions” (i.e. Catholic Bible, patriotism, Constitution etc.) and “tack it onto God’s institutions, [which] is hypocrisy, a mere HUMAN religion.” (Matthew Henry notes for Matt. 15:9)
Thank you for providing an outlet and evidential facts in response to his closed off comment sermons.
We should all measure each others and ourselves to God’s Holy Word and pray that we neither fall into the deceptions of the devil nor the devil’s instruments via wicked men and their false doctrines (human religion).
Part of the reason Baldwin claims to come out of futurism is because the futurism viewpoint supports and needs the false state of Israel. Baldwin clearly (and rightly so) does NOT support the false Israel. But then he stops there and instead replaces one Jesuit creation (futurism) with the another Jesuit creation know as preterism.
He is adamant in not even touching the Catholic church and never have I once heard him address the Jesuits, harlot church, etc. He is too well read to NOT know the absolute truth.
Wikipedia: Deception or falsehood is an act or statement that misleads, hides the truth, or promotes a belief, concept, or idea that is not true. It is often done for personal gain or advantage. Deception can involve dissimulation, propaganda and sleight of hand as well as distraction, camouflage or concealment. There is also self-deception, as in bad faith. It can also be called, with varying subjective implications, beguilement, deceit, bluff, mystification, ruse, or subterfuge.
Thank you for your continued work!
Thank you for sharing your insight! It makes sense that he came out of futurism because it’s based around Zionist Israel, but as you said, there’s no way that he doesn’t know about the historicist explanations which are not based around Zionist Israel.
To not point out the false Gospel of the Roman Catholic Church and the false intercessor in Mary, is without excuse!
And to not proclaim the huge role that the General and his army play in the world, is either massive ignorance and intentional deflection.
It’s ironic that Presidents of the U.S. pointed to the Jesuits as the enemy of the U.S., but Pastor Baldwin doesn’t cite them.
Keep teaching truth and exposing the deceptions of the enemy!